Town of Greene, Maine

Planning Board Minutes

July 17, 2012


      Joseph McLean, Chairman, 212-9350

      Peter Jolicoeur, Secretary & Associate, 946-7250

      George Schott, Treasurer, Associate, 946-7972

      John Bennett,  946-4125

      Mark Randall, 946-5108

      Ferg Lea – AVCOG, 783-9186


                                     CALL TO ORDER


Mr McLean called the Planning Board meeting to order at 7:03pm.  Mr McLean graciously apologized for the postponement of the meeting from the prior week to this date.   Those Members present were Joseph McLean, Mark Randall, Peter Jolicoeur and George Schott.   Also present was Select Board Liaison Don Bedford.   CEO Randy Ray and AVCOG Representative Ferg Lea were not present.   There were several members of the community present this evening.


I.                ANNOUNCEMENTS:


(A)    Planning Board Agenda for the August 14, 2012 meeting closes

July 31, 2012.


(B)   Next regular Planning Board Meeting is August 14, 2012 at

  7:00PM at the Greene Town Office.


(C)    All AVCOG fees must be paid prior to the signing of the Final



II.                              MINUTES FOR PLANNING BOARD MEETING


Mr Schott made the motion to accept the minutes from the June 12, 2012 meeting, Mr Randall seconded the motion.   The vote was 3 agree, 1 abstained.


III.                    TREASURERS REPORT


There was no Treasurers report this evening.


IV.              CEO REPORT


Interim CEO Ken Pratt was present this evening and there was nothing to report.







Mr McCaron was not present this evening.   However, Mr McLean stated that Mr McCarron would like to be called on his cell phone of the outcome.   We do not make phone calls during the meeting as it is a disruption to others in attendance and the TV audience.  


Mr McLean noted that the Site Visit was attend by a few members, John Bennett, Peter Jolicoeur and Joseph McLean.   Ferg Lea went at a later date.   The site was inspected a there was a conversation with Mr McCarron about taking a more comprehensive approach to the driveway improvements including making a defined provision to manage storm water runoff.   There is a depression in the existing driveway where storm water collects and filtrates.   Runoff to this area will be affected by the proposed driveway modifications and it was discussed that rain garden may be warranted to offset these increases in the impervious area.


An updated package was received from Mr McCarron showing the extended area being affected and a rain garden to be added.   However there was a brief discussion about the changes and the board agreed that it would be best if Mr McCarron was in attendance to discuss.   Mr McCarrons abutting neighbor Mr Lassard was present.   Mr Schott then motioned that we postpone the discussion and vote until the next meeting when Mr McCarron can be in attendance, Mr Randall seconded the motion.   The vote was unanimous to wait until Mr McCarron was present.  







Derrick and Megan Laflamme were representing this change.   They are planning to gift 2 acres of their property on Valentine Way to Megan’s dad.   This property is at the end of what was a private road with a cul-de-sac.   A hammerhead has been constructed replacing the old cul-de-sac design and the road has been accepted by the town.


After a discussion of subdivision modifications pertaining to this subdivision and also of cul-de-sacs and hammerheads, frontage distances and numbers of lots in the subdivision, this is an amendment to a lot within a large subdivision.   The Laflammes will need to submit a Subdivision Application, notify their abutters and include septic and well plans for the 2 homes.   Modifications to Large Subdivision form can be referenced in the manual at 7-401.2 Subdivisions.




Mr John Melvides was here this evening representing what he wants to do with Mr Chad Sylvester.   Mr Melvides specified that he would like to replace the old log camp that his family has owned for many years with a new building.   He had looked at repairing the existing structure but as the bottom row of logs is badly decayed the building is settling and it would be better to replace.   The property is a non-conforming lot and he plans to replace the cesspool with a holding tank.   The new structure will have a frost wall with a slab foundation with the same footprint (20 X 34) and be approximately 1 foot higher.   He will continue to pump water from the lake for sinks and toilet and it will remain as seasonal usage.


Mr Steve Laroche, a neighbor, was present and stated he has no problem with what Mr Melvides wants to do.   His only concern is the potential blocking of access to his property.   The building will not be moving and the passageway will not be altered.


There was then  discussion of repair and replacement.   If it is to be replaced then we should try to make the lot more conforming than it is.   With the presence of ledge on the property there is no real way to move the building location.   There was a discussion of DEP permits needed for fill used in the shoreland zone.   Mr Melvides stated he has applied for the DEP permits needed.


The board then reviewed the Application Completeness Checklist.   Mr Schott motioned to waive the Boundary Survey as the property line is quite clear.   Mr Randall seconded the motion, the vote was unanimous.   Mr Schott then motioned that there should be a letter of authority from John Melvides, Sr, the owner of the property, allowing John Melvides, Jr act in his behalf.   Mr Randall seconded the motion, the vote was unanimous.   Then there was a discussion on holding tanks.


Mr Schott made the motion to find the application complete.   Mr Randall seconded the motion, the vote was unanimous.   This was followed by Mr Schott motioning to waive the site visit.   Mr Randal seconded the motion.   If anyone feels they should see the property location Mr Melvides has no problem with us doing so.   The vote was unanimous.   Mr Schott then motioned to approve the plan to replace the building with the condition that we receive the letter of authority from Mr Melvides, Sr.   Mr Randall seconded the motion, the vote was unanimous.   Mr McLean then commended Mr Melvides for having such a complete plan with all the appropriate documents to go with it.








A letter was received from John Malone, AVCOG, that Greene’s Comprehensive Plan expires 12-31-12.    It will need to be looked at for changes and voted on again.   A copy of the letter was also sent to the Select Board.


We have new Land Use Manuals.


There is an upcoming Workshop for Planning Boards put on by MMA.   If anyone plans to attend, contact Sally.


Received a letter from FEMA stating that updates to the Flood Maps are available in draft.   They are looking for comments.


The Androscoggin River Conference is scheduled for May.   The notice came too late.


A notice from AVCOG about the workshop postponement.   It was a follow up to what we already knew.


An Abutters Notice was returned for the Pine Drive property stating that they do not disagree with the proposed changes.



Seeing no other discussion, Mr. Schott made a motion for adjournment.  Mr Randall seconded the motion.  The Board Members voted unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 8:31pm.



Respectfully submitted by,



Peter Jolicoeur