Town of Greene, Maine

Planning Board Minutes

September 13, 2011


      Rebecca Laliberte, Chairman, 946-3687

      Peter Jolicoeur, Secretary & Associate, 946-7250

      John Bennett, Treasurer, 946-4125

      Gaetan Breton, Jr., 576-6812

      George Schott, Associate, 946-7972

      Joseph McLean, Associate 212-9350

      Jennifer Heath 576-5093  

      Ferg Lea – AVCOG, 783-9186


                                     CALL TO ORDER


Chairman, Rebecca Laliberte called the Planning Board meeting to order at 7:05pm.  Those Members present were Ms. Laliberte, John Bennett, Joseph McLean, Peter Jolicoeur, Gaetan Breton, Jr.   George Schott arrived at 7:13pm.   Board Member Jennifer Heath was not present.  Also present were AVCOG representative Ferg Lea, Selectmen liaison Don Bedford, CEO Randy Ray and several members of the community.


I.                ANNOUNCEMENTS:


(A)    Planning Board Agenda for the November 8, 2011 meeting closes

October 25, 2011.


(B)   Next regular Planning Board Meeting is November 8, 2011 at

  7:00PM at the Greene Town Office.


(C)    All AVCOG fees must be paid prior to the signing of the Final



II.                              MINUTES FOR PLANNING BOARD MEETING


Mr McLean made the motion to accept the minutes from the June 14, 2011 meeting, Mr Bennett seconded the motion.   The vote was unanimous.


Mr McLean made the motion to accept the minutes from the August 9, 2011 meeting, Mr Bennett seconded the motion.   The vote was unanimous.


III.                    TREASURERS REPORT


Mr. Bennett stated there were no expense in the last month.   He noted that the bills for the Public Notices have not been received from the Sun/Journal and that the bills for AVCOG expenses need to be signed so they can be sent out for payment.   The bills were signed.




IV.              CEO REPORT


Mr. Ray reported that there were a total of 3 permits issued since the last Planning Board meeting.  These permits were for 1 addition and 2 garages. 






Mr Schott left the board to be a member of the audience.


Mr Ernest Deluca, Recreation/Real Estate Enterprise Manager, represented this plan.  

Mr Deluca updated the Board on what has happened at the site since the last meeting.   He stated that signs have been purchased and installed along the fenced in area with appropriate wording for times opened, carry-in/carry-out rules and usage of the area.   He discussed the size, materials used to construct and the wording on the signs.      He then explained that he was looking for appropriate wording for prohibiting the discharge of fire arms.   This opened a discussion about bird hunters using the area to launch boats for hunting along the banks of the river and would this prohibit that particular activity.   The question came up of if it is possible to police the area for that.


The idea was then discussed of an annual review of the usages of the area which Ms Laliberte was in favor of.   Mr McLean stated that if there was an annual review there needs to be a agenda of what is going to be reviewed.   Mr Schott commented on whether the Board can allow permits to be issued contingent on what happens a year from now.


A discussion then continued about the Board’s jurisdiction over traffic speeds, road upgrades and vandalism.   It was stated that another traffic count can be done after the facility opens.   It was also stated that recreational counts are typically done every 6 years.   Mr McLean and Mr Lea discussed the thresholds in this area stating the ordinance isn’t that definitive of traffic, fencing, security and discharging of fire arms.   Also discussed was if these were enforceable by law.   Officer Dave Chabot then added to the discussion with his knowledge of who uses the area and the types of hunting that goes on in that area.   Mr Lea then discussed the usages of the area, parking in rights-of-ways and the uniqueness of the development being done by a private company for public usage.   He continued by urging the developer to have a parking agreement with the town covering maintenance and a letter to that effect be initialed by the Board members and filed with the plan.   He agreed that he can do the Findings that would cover the points of review.


Mr Schott returned to the board at 7:52PM.





Mr Doug Ellison, owner, was present representing this application.   Copies of the letter from Terradine were distributed for the Board to review.   A discussion then took place about the new calculation, the rain gardens, and the dirt road.   The determination was that it was all workable.   Mr Breton made the motion to approve the project conditionally on Mr Lea discussing the calculation with the engineer and the rain garden is used to remove the phosphorous to the standard level.   Ms Laliberte seconded the motion, the vote was unanimous.




VI.             US CELLULAR


      Mr Robert Gashin was present representing the plan.   Mr Gashin stated that US 

      Cellular only wanted to add an antenna to the tower that was constructed off Patten

      Rd.   He stated that there will be no new construction on the ground as they will be

      using the existing shed.  


      There were 2 letters received from abutter notification.   One

      stating that there is a concern that Cell Towers could reduce property value.   The

      other had no concerns stated.


      Mr Schott made the motion to accept the plan to add the antenna, Mr Breton  

      seconded the motion.   The vote was unanimous.


VII.            FUTURE POOLS


Mr John Rac, owner, was present representing this plan.   Mr Rac stated that he was making application to expand his business to include the sale of pre-owned automobiles.   He was adding a building to house the auto sales office and a small garage for minor repairs.   His new home is also being built on the property.


Issues brought up were that of different chemicals being stored on the property.   He can not store pool chemicals in the same location as auto materials.   Mr Rac stated he isn’t planning to have auto repairs done on location but isn’t ruling it out for the future.   At that time it would only be minor repairs, no rebuilds or major overhauls.   He was planning to keep the businesses in separate buildings.


The Checklist Review was then done showing that everything was included in the application that was necessary for this purpose.


Then there was a discussion about road frontage requirements for multiple businesses on 1 lot.   According to the ordinance 3-101-2 M, there is not enough road frontage for multiple businesses.   The discussion then continued determining that if both offices could be housed in the same building that it would satisfy the requirements.   Mr Rac stated that he had enough space in the pool building to house the office for the auto business with a separate entrance.


As the time was getting close to the 10:00PM deadline, Mr McLean made the motion to continue past 10:00PM to determine application completeness, Mr Breton seconded the motion.   The vote was unanimous.


The Board then continued the discussion of lot size and multiple businesses making the determination that the plan needs to be changed to include the names of the abutters, size and direction of any lights being added, and show both businesses in the existing building.      Mr Schott made the motion to approve with the above changes, Mr Breton seconded the motion.   The vote was unanimous.








Seeing no other discussion, Mr. Breton made a motion for adjournment.  Mr Schott seconded the motion.  The Board Members voted unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 10:15pm.



Respectfully submitted by,



Peter Jolicoeur